We CANNOT burp!: Recent Posts

We CANNOT burp!: Recent Posts http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ We CANNOT burp!: Recent Posts en Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:22:59 +0000 MikeMike on "Your symptoms" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=5&page=2#post-110 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:37:12 +0000 MikeMike 110@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ Sorry all to disappoint but I highly doubt there will ever be any medication to come out for this symptom. I cannot imagine that any medication could trigger a response from the vagus nerves to make the upper esophageal sphincter to relax, and even if it does you would need to almost immediately close it before any acid reflux occurs. Unless you want to take medication similar to ipecac whereby it may trigger a gag reflex of some sort, there is no way any medication that will let us burp. This is why I keep advocating not to find ways to burp, but rather expel gas through the other end. We need to find a way for the stomach to effectively push all of the gas into the intestines after a meal or a drink. Unfortunately motillium does not work although it is meant to speed up digestion. Nevertheless, the focus should be here rather than finding ways to burp in my opinion. quirkyalone on "Introduce yourselves" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=7&page=2#post-109 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:25:17 +0000 quirkyalone 109@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ Hi all, my name is Kelvin. I am 34 years old and reside in Fort Lauderdale, FL. I honestly can't remember when my stomach problems and the 'gurgles' started, but I'd estimate I've been dealing with it in some fashion for about 7-8 years... maybe longer. My symptoms are pretty similar to those that the rest of you experience (more on that later, perhaps in a more appropriate forum) and I've just about had it with the medical establishment's insistence that all I have to do is take a pill and this will all just magically go away (the first thing I tell a doctor upon my first visit is always "I do NOT have acid reflux!). Looking forward to meeting more of you and hopefully finally finding some relief... ~ Kelvin ksc2008 on "Introduce yourselves" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=7#post-108 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:35:29 +0000 ksc2008 108@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ Hi fliespa. I recently read your post and was glad to see that youre doctor was interested in this case, I was especially intrigued b/c I live in MN as well, just west of minneapolis. I, like everyone else, here have many of the same symptoms. Ive had it for quite sometime and it has only been getting worse. Everyone I tell just thinks im crazy, and they dont realize how much it really has affected my life. This blogpage has really helped in knowing that im not alone in all this. If your doctor has any updates please let me know, and maybe I can try and see that doctor, so they know its not just a made up thing or maybe having more people with the same symptoms might be helpful. let me know what you think and best of luck with the referral apntmnt. quirkyalone on "Your symptoms" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=5#post-107 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:27:20 +0000 quirkyalone 107@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ Hello all... I'm new here and will post a proper introduction soon enough, but I wanted to expand on the topic of the mind/body connection with regards to our problem. While in probably all of our cases the issue is primarily structural (i.e. vagus nerve damage, hiatal hernia, etc.), I don't think we can dismiss that our emotional state can and will contribute to our physical maladies. I was diagnosed with a mild hiatal hernia when I had an upper GI done last year, but I was told that half the population has one and not to worry about it. But the more research I do on hiatal hernias and their relation to vagus nerve damage, the more I believe there is a connection between them and my stomach problems. I experience other problems which I believe are directly related to my digestive issues: severe sleep apnea, hypertension, mild to moderate anxiety. And while I would never accept someone telling me that "it is all in my head", I certainly cannot dismiss that my mental state influences and contributes to my physical problems. This particular excerpt from <a href="http://www.joyfullivingservices.com/hiatalhernia.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.joyfullivingservices.com/hiatalhernia.html</a> is especially poignant: "Lastly, there are emotional causes. According to one applied kinesiologist text a hiatal hernia comes from repressed anger. A person "swallows their anger" and "can't stomach it." When you get angry, you suck your breath upward. If you fail to release this anger, your stomach stays up. I have observed that most of the people with severe hiatal hernias have a great deal of emotional stress and hold a lot of it inside." I have recently started dating a wonderful woman who works as a yoga therapist. She specializes in many modalities, but one in particular might bring all of us some much-needed relief. It is called spinal breathing yoga, or 'pranayama'. I have only done a couple of sessions with her, but I am already seeing how it can benefit me greatly. I am becoming aware of just how shallow I tend to breathe throughout the day and becoming more conscious of my body in general. I highly, highly recommend this practice to anyone who is experiencing these problems and believes that their issue is directly related to breathing. ~ Kelvin MD on "Your symptoms" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=5#post-106 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:48:50 +0000 MD 106@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ MikeMike. I have the same problem but it doesnt run my life. my symptoms dont seem to be as severe as most people who have written so far. i'm following the discussion board in the hope for some information on how to relieve this problem and hopefully eventually be able to burp regularly. It would be nice to have the relief of releasing excess gas after meals or when i dont feel well and not getting bloated all the time. i definately don't believe that this is a psychological problem. our symptoms are too similar for it to be individually psychological. i agree that a positive mind frame might help relieve some of the discomfort but at the end of the day i think medical intervention or some kind of therapy is necessary. i'm so happy we have made progress in figuring out what's wrong with us and it's nice to know people are in the same boat as i am. hopefully we'll find some more information and work from there... MikeMike on "Your symptoms" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=5#post-105 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:34:36 +0000 MikeMike 105@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ Thanks for your response. I didn't mean to try and stifle progress of finding a solution of the dysfunction of the belch reflex in any way. I think that its great that we're all voicing our symptoms in order to gather more info on this problem. However, I am saying that you shouldn't completely disregard some sort of mental component that might come into play. Hell, it might be a simple sympathetic response (ie fight or flight) which causes our digestive process to slow and cause us gas discomfort. Nevertheless, please do not let this run your life. It has ruined my life for the past 8 months, and I've realized the more I stress about this, the more I get worse. A lot of depression/anxiety sufferers stress so much on their symptoms whether it be nausea or otherwise, that the stress itself causes the symptoms to appear and thus in turn cause more stress to them in a vicious cycle. One thing I can guarantee is that if you simply distract yourself from thinking you will gurgle after a meal or throughout the day (and I mean completely forget about it), then you will not do so... fliespa on "Introduce yourselves" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=7#post-104 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:08:30 +0000 fliespa 104@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ I met with my doctor on Friday and he was very receptive. That was refreshing! My doctor asked me all of the questions about reflux, GERD, if I'd taken antacids or Zantac or Gas-X (yes, yes, yes) and if any of them had worked (no, no, no). Since I live in Rochester, MN I am being referred to the Mayo Clinic. I brought in the following two abstracts from PubMed, the online Medical research site (www.pubmed.com)that is free to the public (abstracts anyway). I also brought in the description posted by gurglez of her symptoms (thanks!) and my doctor was intereted in the UES/LES issue that Dr. Kahrilas described. One of the abstracts below is a paper published by none other than Dr. Kahrilas. I asked my doctor if it was annoying to have patients bring in their own research, and he said not to him, but to some it might be - but because of the oddity of this condition, he thought it was a good idea in order to get the point across. I think now that I've already had an Upper GI and an endoscopy done, I was more direct in telling the doctor that NO, I don't have reflux, NO, I don't have GERD. I cannot belch and it is very uncomfortable, and it is affecting my quality of life, blah blah blah. So now I am waiting to hear if about a referral appointment at the Mayo Clinic. Abstract: Dysfunction of the belch reflex. A cause of incapacitating chest pain. <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3623025?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=1&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3623025?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=1&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed</a> Abstract: A case of inability to belch. <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11339431?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=3&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11339431?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=3&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed</a> Holly on "Your symptoms" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=5#post-103 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:00:36 +0000 Holly 103@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ MikeMike, i am surprised to have read what you posted. please don't give up on finding a solution. the rest of us are just as discouraged but we need to get to the bottom of this! i too have never met anyone who cannot burp but is just fine...i have met a few others, even one of my best friends, who cannot burp, but they too are in the same discomfort as us. experiencing nausea could just be a side effect for you; our body mechanics are all different even if we do lack the same reflex. if it is the vagal nerve responsible, you may have more nerve damage than those of us who are not nauseus, just like i have vagal nerve damage resulting in thyroid disease. i refuse to accept the notion that this is psychological. that is very silly to me. we lack a reflex and we're looking for a way to fix it or to relieve the discomfort and that's that. i am by no means depressed by this condition; i am frustrated and intrigued. my intentions are not to shoot down anyone's ideas, because the point of this board is to pool our thoughts together, but i agree that we should try to stay on track with finding a solution here. JohnB on "Your symptoms" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=5#post-102 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:17:39 +0000 JohnB 102@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ MikeMike... obviously there is alot of people here suffering with this basically undiagnosed and unknown condition. I think while it may affect different people in different ways, we all share very similar general symptoms and I'd rather keep the discussion moving towards solutions and deal with this very real problem rather than spiral down to discussing the psychological when we are just now starting to find out about the vagal nerve and how it is malfunctioning. Doctors don't have any clue (except for 1 in Chicago) about the condition, so how could they possibly be right in their skepticism? Your train of thought will only impede the process in my view. I did go to a gastro-entrologist and he didn't know, understand or give me any help and he is a specialist in the field! Should I believe him that I really can burp when, in fact, I never, ever have burped... because he says so? We have a group of people suffering and you want to bolster the notion that we should just relax and fart our way through this? Thanks for helping!?! Not being able to burp keeps me from doing things I'd like to do... because of the bloating and discomfort. Maybe relaxing will help keep the gurgles down alittle, but it does not help any of us burp... and that is the problem we are trying to resolve collectively with the forum discussion. Please lets not start undermining the effort by turning the subject to psychological questions. I do not have any nausea like you do, but that doesn't mean your nausea isn't real or part of the dysfunction of the belch reflex. I'm certainly not completely terrified to vomit either, but I'm not dismissing you... saying its all in your head. Hell, vomiting daily would be easier than nor burping. And where do you find all the people that cannot burp but enjoy life just fine farting all the time? You say "There are plenty of people who also cannot burp, yet they do not complain of ANY discomfort from it and merely brags of their ability to fart alot. Maybe it is all in our heads after all." Well I've never run into anyone ever that has this condition and you seem to know all kinds of very happy non-burpers and proud farters? And now it may be all in our heads???? Great. You aren't helping find a solution with this approach and in my mind, you are actually hurting our cause and our search. I don't think this direction or your notions helps any of us at all... gurglez on "Introduce yourselves" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=7#post-101 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:13:35 +0000 gurglez 101@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ I wrote to Dr. Kahrilas 3 or 4 days ago and when I have some more information I will post it here :) MikeMike on "Your symptoms" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=5#post-100 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:25:22 +0000 MikeMike 100@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ For those who are suffering from nausea, please consider whether there may be some psychological problems existing. I have noticed on this board that some people complain of suffering from nausea, while others do not, which suggests that nausea is not necessarily a common symptom among the non-burpers. Other than symptoms consisting of gurgling noises in the throat, hiccups, chest pain and occasional stomach pains, there is a good chance that other symptoms that people are complaining are NOT NECESSARILY DIRECTLY CAUSED BY THE NON-BURPING. I have come to the realization that perhaps the doctors are right to be skeptical about our condition based on the fact that, if we cannot pass air/gas through burping, it would simply go out by farting the gas out the other end (although, the process is a little more complex than this; air that is not belched will pass into the intestines where part of it will be absorbed into the bloodstream and the remainder will be mixed with other gases produced by the intestines to be farted out through the anus). It really should not be a problem at all. There are plenty of people who also cannot burp, yet they do not complain of ANY discomfort from it and merely brags of their ability to fart alot. Maybe it is all in our heads after all. I have been told by my gastroenterologist and others that mental distress, particularly while eating will cause your digestion to slow. I have also noticed that, when I am completely distracted from thinking/worrying about not burping and being completely immersed in exercise or getting really into a movie, the gurgles do stop. My nausea (which is my main problem) comes and goes at random times throughout the day. I always try to fight it, and I have yet to gag/dry heave or vomit from it. It's almost as though I'm having some kind of panic attack whereby I start to become anxious that I am going to feel nauseous, which then in turn becomes full-blown nausea. The fact that I am completely terrified to vomit makes me extra distressed. You can imagine the impact this has had in my life. I cannot enjoy my life at all because of this. I suggest to everyone not to easily brush off the fact that perhaps there are some mental factors that are going on. To make the non-burping run your life will almost definitely lead to depression of some sort. I'd like to know what others think about this.... Holly on "Introduce yourselves" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=7#post-99 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:09:25 +0000 Holly 99@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ pete, keep us posted on what your new doc says. mine laughed at me too, and i haven't gone back since, although maybe i will get up the nerve to bring in the study dr kahrilas did. julie, any other updates? we haven't heard from you in a while. it's interesting that some of you have said you have to lay on your right side. i can pretty much only lay on my left to relieve the pain. the second i flip on my right, it starts. i think it has to do with the way the esophagus is positioned over the stomach. Pringles on "Your symptoms" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=5#post-98 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:23:54 +0000 Pringles 98@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ Probably the most benificialy thing though is to rub the nexk upwards if you have tension isues..on eack side....oddly just that can release alot of gas..it is like the tension in the mussles can crush nerves..stay away from sodas..anything cafinated..for the love of god stay away from them..learn to relax. With your eves closed after some deep tisue mossage of certain places...(like inner thies downward...glandualr areas...like by your armpit on the chest) Scan your attention arround try to scan your atention arround ond over your body...a light scan, and notice if anything like a thought or emotion..maybe a feeling comes up..if it does, make copies of it, mentally, and place thenm all around the body....this may help to handle an issue that is there that one does not know of that could be psychosomatic in nature causing tennsion or stress..I know it may sound weird or odd but try it once when fully relaxed int he hot bath. I find siting on my knees in the hot bath works best becaisue it keep smy spine strait..and the gas mivoes upwards when the tension releases..metal things can cause tension in body parts..and thoghts can controll the body..the midn is the forrunner of all things, or so hte Buddists say, and really anytiem you do anytihng you often think a thought first...now if you wish, have th idea that some thoughts on automatic acan effect how the body functions..maybe a past issue..causing tension..in my case it is tesion then spine moving tight..then a feleing of nerves being slighly pinched..which isn't noticable at first..but after some time...pinched nerves act like damaged nerves...so that may be it...pinched nerves so poor comuncation between mind and organs...but realyl try to spaceate the area around your body and..here is a good one. Feel the area above you head..feel that space and be that space. Not try it below your feel simutaniously..this often relaxes people....it is like their space opens up more and they are aboe to relax for they are not pulling themselves inward to a central location in the middle of the chest. Also play arround with pressure points on your feet just press arround and hold..don't expect instantanious results, and try not to become frustrated and give up...I have found that in the middle fof my foot there is a spot that if I press it, the gas will just release......htere are pressure points inthe feet that are conected to the organs..this is known to foot people...so try htat hold a spot and feel arround..get a feel for your body inside and out..try to use feeling as much as posible..and when tension begings to realese hold that spot! Works for me as a remedy. but a hot rag over the face can be amaxzing..the warn air seems to penatrate the deep tisiue inside the troat and move into the lungs.....and free up stff that wants to escape...heat seems to work very well for this isue if properly applied.. When I say feel I don't mean with your skin only..I mean feel...emotionally as well..and try to penatrate the area with your awareenass and broaden over the area like a blanket....seems to help Good luck all HTis whole thing hasn't been alot of fun for me..wors part is people often don't beleve you..doctors, family.....thy even tell you not to burp, and that is like telling sommeone they should jump off a talll building....when you can burp you have to burp...some others have no idea the pain and discomfet from not doing so..the chest pains, the inability to breath..the nausia and for me even nervousness and ireguar thoughts..ianbilty ot think..even apain in the knees and arthritis sympoms whne ithis gets really bad...they cease when the tesnion is realsed and the gas discharged..then my kneecaps don't feel they are going to pop off..and they really feel like that..so much pressure..and it builds up when the gas does and it seems my windpipe is closed permantently..then the temporary hystaria, "Oh god will it get worse" and a feeling of being pushed out of the body..as well as numbness.. Hope someday they come up with a real answer to this all..sometihng fast and a CURE...I could be done with this and go back to living a life then..I am growing tired of building my life arround sometihng doctors wont eve regognise..or at least the available ones to me....I have grown so frustrated with the medical establisment over this....you read off your symptoms and they just say it is in your mind totally..and it's not..there are physical symptoms..and i can understand stress can cause Physical symptoms...but really? they know nothing? I was even told once that i was just simply being a hypocondriac.....I defiantly wasnt before this...I never looked up stuff on the net concernign heart matters..this issne canme then when you an't find solutions int the medical comunity you look arround..and you look with an anxiety as well....it is relief I seek..this isn't comfortable....they simply do not understand that.....anyone who has this and does not look for a solution must be dead..because i don't know how one can not....it is the most uncomfortable thing I have ever experinced in my life...who wouldn't want relief..and it has been one to see others have this as well.....still I don't want to join a club of sick people...I want to get in and out(laugh)....I don't want to live with this the rest of my life. I hope we all have answers soon. My best wishes to all... Ido not know if I would have had the understanding of this unless i did expereince it myself, but I do, and i wish everyone well, Good luck and get well. Pringles. Pringles on "Your symptoms" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=5#post-97 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:46:29 +0000 Pringles 97@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ i have this problem. It sucks.. Symptoms: Can not burp, Numbness in feet when it gets bad and I don't constantly work on burping. A sensation of being pushed out my face. Tension n chest and around heart..lungs..chest pains, trouble breathing. food getting lodged in uper part of throat..I once ate a cup of gren beans and the next morning choked one up, undigested with acid in throat..this is getting bad.. Blured vission...pressure in and on ears..ears pop, swlen jaws and swollen mussles..cramps in mussles, hypertension all over the body....loosing weight...can't Fing eat anything..it's becoming very frustrating.... Only remedy so far. Hot bath. Wash rag. To relax the musles of the body.. Rub the cloth with warm water downward on spine and allong inner legs, rub tender spot inside of legs...deep tissue masage musles away from chest in legs towads feet..burp as much as possible. Try to feel the heat in the leg as much as possible...breath in heat from rag to loosen the throat as well....breathing steam seems to help alot...relaxes mussles... rub neck upwards with rag. the rest of the spine downward on each side. Downlaod the EFT book (Emotiona freedom technques) learn the tapping points, acupuncture points...these help....I cant burp while sitting..mostly standing. I also have a bacteria infection...spit allot of white foamy trash..this is discusting, the acid in the thoroat really sucks...and then the nevers in my legs tingle durring this....sharp electrical pains shoot down legs....One thing that helps is to totally relax your whole body. Get ear plugs. Fill the tub hot. Wash rag. No Bubbles. No soap. hell get two wash rags. One to cover face the other to sub and streah out mussles... Try to relase your atention from your physicla body. Find areas that there are body galnds and rub those deep...mainly along the point by your shoulder. There cold be an emotioal cause to this. Here is the deal. I have studdind a few things eastern, or mental in aproach towards dissease. I am no expert though. One thing I picked up is that the body conciousness can become disconected fromt he mental secion of the mind due to emotiaol blockages and issues.... Eft really helps to unover these in my expereince but has not been a full cure..I havn't had thourough time to personlly test it fully..but so far really good results. Stay away from sodas....and milk, anything frothey....I seen one girl whos aind this issue came up wheith yogurt and milk, also another dairy product..this to me indicates bacteria.infection of some sort along with this other set of stuff going on. I think the situation is complex and doctors have trouble with complex issues...they just want a singular diagnosis...i have had many doctors call me a liar for my symptoms, everything is fine they say...I say I cant breath, cant burp feel like I am going to explode, and want basically to be cut open to releave the pressure.....this is very painfull....and the tension it is causing is pinching nerves...even my back is going out of place...the condition i have had for some time, so eating is hard to do..sometimes i go for a day without just to try to gains some ground on this issue...and get ahead of the belch factory inside me...... I hae heard the Zapper desighned by Hylda Clark MD may be of use as well...concidered a quack, but hte things seem to sell, and they have 3 month waranties, and not allot of returns so there seems to be plenty going on there.....paracites may be an issue..maybe...I can't see why not..thy can even screw with a persons nerous system, steal food, cause stouumach ailments....worth a look.. Mostly though I see it as a problem of not being fully conected to the body somehow...and the nerves becoming tense and such..hence the inability to belch by the tightness of the esophogus..also the inability to digest foods...this is a straess reaction..thre may be other mental issues.....emotial issues lurking..causing stress...that one has become used to or even dependent upon as a regualr way of living. I am going ot try a few things. Cut out nicotine, Sugars, anytihng spicy, Then I am going to vuy a zapper..and use it. Then I will use the hot bath methid which I already use daily...and nightly...to vurp like mad..it's the opnly way i can sleep..it gets worse when I lay down..odd but htat is what happens..all the gas moves upards and puts so much pressure onthe lungs.....nad chest..then heart pains, cheast pains...thoughts of impending hear atack... Also touch ing thigs seems to work. Try it. just tap on an object while standing and try to steach out your awareness beyond your feet and above your fhead, and feel your body ain various locations..this seems to help..it is like some form of mental assist..don't ask me how or why it works..I can only offer theory...one is that we pull out of the areas that are unhealthy naturally, and do not like to peremate with our awarness ill or injuerd areas..so it could be that. Here is aone to try..if lying down works for you OK, for me it doesn't I hae to stand but here it is.... Feel all the life in the bottom of your right foot then after some time your left.. THe idea is to felel the areas deeply...and loosen the mussles arrond the nerve chanels of the body.......it amy be in shock somwhat..especially if stressed..this is why the hot rag works as well and the breathing of warm air...for the reason that it loosiens up the mussles...my tension has become so bad that i can't even pee unless i do sit in the tub for a while, or run my hand under warn water...the idea is to feel the warm water and focus on the wwarmth..... I seem to have trouble with numbness and this is causing most of it IMO. When you become numb in a n area you do not realize you are numb. If this is an isue of a disconected or damaged nerve it may just be a pinched nerve...and also a malnourished nerve... A good thing to look at may be vitamins for nerves....like the B vitamins...as a bit more help..but if you are already having digestive problems be carefull in taking them...if they stick in the uper throat thaey can cause ulcers in time by burning a hole in the uper intesting.... So emotioal issues are things to look for...try ET it is free. Hot baths for loosiening musles. Breathing warn air for lossing thrat and wind pipe. Warkm rag on varios parts of the body...feel it deeply. Rubing out nmussles and trying ot get space from whatever tension is there. Tension can have mental and emotioal causes that one is not always aware of initially. Try to work on the conection with you and the body emotially...by dfeeling..and be willing to expereince any and all thigns that come up feeling wise...do not avod negative emotions..be willing bto feel and hae them..then they will discharge...that should really help with the tension in ways one would not normally believe untill done. alos dry to fully feel the deep body tissue durring massage in tub durring privacy, and work on geytting over embarasement about burping and farting..because you have no choice about it....you have to do it....the psycological factor of this can cause you to actualy, as you are about to burp, or fart, choke it back up...how many did this before they had this condition reguarily..I did. Who wants to burp in public, farting is worse.......so work on that while in the tub..nobody is there....this is asuper brping session....tapping on body parts helps, as well as tapping on the tub... IF relaxing alot brings up mental or memotioal issues..which it often very much does... there is something to the release of body tension and the showing up of psychological thought patterns linked ot daily life or past living..menttla phenomenon, that when fconfronted and dealt with seems to erase leaving one relaxed..like in meditation whree one burns up the images or thoughts.....so try to shut off that mind....turn thoughts on and off while in the tub..and if you have a nervous thought or such that keep you tense...take EFT to it.....there is much to it yet it is very easy once learned...it should be learned ina day..it is that qucik and simple. Dont know if poeple like slightly spiritual help in the form of remedy's but this dissease or whatever it is really Fing sucks...and it has helped me so far...waiting for a full cure.. While I am having htese symptoms even my thinking is muddy, I just can't operate efficently..I will even be posting this without spellcheck....I Just can't do things lIke I would want to and that sucks... Do not drink beer if you do not have to while you have this...anytihng that causes cgas cut out of your diet, and try to take suppliments if you can. For some reason I crave milk. I just read from another that when they did some program some time ago..I don't have a mane....it was from a naturopath...they sent in a hair sample to this company and recieved a solution to drink in return...after taking it their milk cravings ceased, and they did not want their donuts anymore, it took care of their bacteria problem....so if you have a reaving for sweets while you have this, try to cut them out...it seems things like bacteria..which can cause some realyl wird sympoms..including this gas, crave certain things...like milk, and sweets. All for now....I'm off to take a bath. Pringles fliespa on "Your symptoms" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=5#post-96 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:12:22 +0000 fliespa 96@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ I'm going to post my symptoms, even though mine are like so many others here. I can't burp. I eat and soon after my "little dinosaur" gurgles start. Sometimes it is worse than others, but when most people would just burp, I can't. I have never burped in my life except for once - when I dove for a baseball and landed very hard on my chest. That was 15 years ago now. The worst part is the discomfort of being constantly bloated. At night I often have to sleep on my right side until the gas goes away, and that only happens through the other end, unfortunately. It makes for unpleasant living, not only for me but my family, too. fliespa on "Introduce yourselves" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=7#post-95 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:46:29 +0000 fliespa 95@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ I'm Pete from Minnesota and I've had this problem for my entire life. My brothers tried in vain to teach me to burp. It's gotten to a point that I want it fixed because I can't eat anything without discomfort, and of course, the gurgling that does nothing but shift the air around. I have to sleep on my right side many nights because I can't let the air out. I have a doctor's appt today about my "inability to burp." This is not the first time I've went to the doc to ask about it. I've had an Upper GI done and an endoscopy done in the past. I could not believe it when the doctor, a GI specialist, told me it was nothing, all in my head, etc, and that he'd never heard of not being able to burp. I guess he didn't care to look into it any further. So I'm hoping I'll see a new doc this time and have some better results! reno_pdx on "Diagnosis/cures" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=6&page=2#post-94 Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:05:56 +0000 reno_pdx 94@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ Has anyone tried yoga or other alternative medicine therapies like acupuncture? I've found yoga increases my ability to fart (so not great to be in a yoga class) which causes relief, but hasn't improved my ability to burp. reno_pdx on "Introduce yourselves" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=7#post-93 Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:03:04 +0000 reno_pdx 93@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ Hello everyone, I'm Irene, 34 years old, in Portland Oregon. The inability to burp had always been amusing (I can burp only through some strange contortions and the gas usually makes it out the other end first) but has escalated to severe discomfort with the onset of my first pregnancy. Pregnancy is supposed to cause heartburn from a relaxed LED, but that hasn't happened. Instead, I'm having more difficulty getting the gas out! Vigorous exercise, kombucha, and yoga seem to help a bit, but there are still nights during which it's impossible to sleep because of the build up of gas. This is definitely not psychological, so thanks to all of you for adding to the store of knowledge. ASLJenny on "Diagnosis/cures" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=6&page=2#post-92 Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:33:32 +0000 ASLJenny 92@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ In reading all your posts, I find a sense of profound relief (as screwed up as that sounds!). I have struggled with the inability to burp for as long as I can remember. I always just thought it was psychological, and sort of dealt with it. My symptoms are in line with what I've read here: those weird and embarrassing "gurgles", acid reflux, bloating, difficulty breathing, etc. In the rare case a little air gets out, it always takes me completely by surprise, and in any case this only happens like once a year, if that. It's great to hear that there is progress being made towards finding out just what is wrong with us (the stuff about the UES and verus nerve is VERY interesting). In the interim, I have a question: is there anything in our diet that could help? Like certain foods to avoid? Maybe reducing foods that cause gas could provide some measure of relief? Any thoughts? ASLJenny on "Introduce yourselves" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=7#post-91 Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:24:18 +0000 ASLJenny 91@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ Hi, my name's Jenny. I'm 28, I live in Indianapolis, and I'm SO glad I found this little oasis. I haven't been able to burp as long as I can remember, and I thought it was all psychological. Here's to hoping we find a solution! Cheers, Jenny kiko8181 on "Diagnosis/cures" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=6&page=2#post-90 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:32:27 +0000 kiko8181 90@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ HEY BUDDYS I dont know any facts on this condition. Everyone I have talked to about it dosent seem to know anything including doctors. I seems to mess me up everytime I eat too much junk, most of all too much soda. The only way I can burp is if I slam my back up against the wall or if someone hits me in the back really hard as im taking a deep breath, which sucks. I think the reason I have this problem is from being fed consentrated infamil by accident when I was about 3 days old which sent me to the ER. I dont know much about that but I do know I almost died and was poked with alot of needles. The doctors says I have acid reflex but I never have heartburn. ???? I get releif from taking deep breaths with someone patting my back really hard. kiko8181 on "Introduce yourselves" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=7#post-89 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:52:12 +0000 kiko8181 89@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ Hello my name is KIKO,IM 26 yrs old, I just had a doublecheese burger cuz I was hungry "BIG MISTAKE" now I cant sleep cuz Im full of gas and cant burp.Man I feel like I cant breath, I thought I was the only one with this problem. Message me anytime at <a href="http://www.myspace.com/LORDKIKO" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/LORDKIKO</a> kiko8181 on "i" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=10#post-88 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:39:08 +0000 kiko8181 88@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ kiko8181 on "H" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=9#post-87 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:35:54 +0000 kiko8181 87@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ missweasley824 on "Introduce yourselves" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=7#post-86 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:17:55 +0000 missweasley824 86@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ hey there everyone! I'm Lauren and I'm almost 19 from New Jersey :D grabby on "Your symptoms" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=5#post-85 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:17:16 +0000 grabby 85@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ Hello again!!! It's Gabe again from California. I just read about all of the tests and torture - thanks for doing that, Julie!!!!!! I want to add the following: Same as you, I feel as if I can't breathe because of this, and colds/bronchitis make it MUCH worse - the breathing that is. Funny thing, I don't drink sodas, but I have been drinking more now - about 4 beers a night - and I swear the breathing part is way better, although I am still bloated. When I stop drinking for a couple days, my throat feels tight and I feel the breathing thing again. Maybe the alcohol makes air flow more easily through the intestines? Also, this problem started when I was 21.5, and it was very noticeable, as I was an athlete and felt that I couldn't breathe. Went to the hospital many times, they found nothing, said I was breathing perfectly. Felt the gagging thing, as others have mentioned, in my teens, but it went away in my early 20s. Constant lump in the throat - yes, someone mentioned that also. I have that. Except for when I drink alcohol..... Anyway, let me know if you hear any more, and I would be interested in seeing Dr. Kahrilas if there is any benefit to the group - since it seems like all of my symptoms are Julie's also. Btw - my mom has a swallowing coordination problem in which she swallows air. She can burp though. Hereditary? Possibly. I might swallow funny but cannot burp. Cheers, have a great day!!!! Gabriel missweasley824 on "Your symptoms" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=5#post-84 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:13:41 +0000 missweasley824 84@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ I never knew that other people have this "Can't Burp" problem! I can count the number of times that I have burped on one hand, and those burps were accidental. Instead I get the weird gurgling noise that everyone keeps talking about and sometimes, it can be a little painful. I've always had the inablity to burp but its only gotten to be a problem this past month (coincidentally this month I've been having trouble with allergies, which usually do not bother me, I dont know if that is related or what). Saw a gasteroenterologist earlier this month, had an endoscopy which was clean, and he diagnosed GERD and prescribed Nexium twice daily but it hasn't helped the gurgling, I also take Claritin-D for allergies. I'm 18 years old and here are my symptoms: 1. Throat Gurgling: most bothersome and annoying, sometimes quiet and sometimes unbelievably loud. 2. Inablity to take a good deep breath at times, especially after eating/shortness of breath 3. Hiccups 4. Bloating-though not as severe or as often as previous posters 5. INABLITY TO BURP even when I feel the need to 6. This leads, perhaps, to gagging. And when I gag there is this terrible burp-like noise that comes out, its quite loud. Afterwards I usually feel better although sometimes it does lead to throwing up. 7. my post nasal drip from allergies seems to make it worse Thank you Julie Ann for doing so much research, keep us posted girl! ~Lauren Gord Knowles on "Diagnosis/cures" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=6&page=2#post-83 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:34:29 +0000 Gord Knowles 83@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ I will add that I severly hope a cure or a controller can be found for this affliction, as I have just had a daughter and I fear that this sort of thing may be hereditary, as both my mother and I suffer from it. Something that I am unsure if it has been posed: does anyone else share this problem with a family member? Gord Knowles on "Diagnosis/cures" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=6&page=2#post-82 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:31:22 +0000 Gord Knowles 82@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ I had previously posted in the old blog, but I thought I would add that when I originally began investigating my gurgling, over the course of a year I had an MRI, colon scope, lactose-tolerance test, ultrasound and barium-fueled upper GI performed, and none of these tests turned up any abnormalities save for a fatty liver (which has its own story). I remain confident that the issue is, as others have proposed, is in the windpipe and with regards to faulty sphincters. I have found swimming to be particularly bad, as well as anything requiring large amounts of oxygen, as the expanded stomach is pushing up on the lungs and cutting off much of the potential air supply, leading to heavier breathing and worse gas (a cyclical problem). As far as a suggestion goes, I found the best way to combat it is to just relax after eating, and fart as much as you can; it's not a perfect solution (or a socially viable one), but a lot of the gas seems to find its way out. I have found on the days when I am eating out and do not have a chance to relieve myself of the gas that it truly becomes sickening to have. kellycantburp on "Your symptoms" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=5#post-81 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:54:40 +0000 kellycantburp 81@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ alright, here i go sounding repetitive. can't burp. when i DO try to force the burp out it hurts like a mother, and doesn't come out. major bloating gurgles after EVERYTHING (this includes eating anything and drinking anything, EVEN WATER, doing gymnastics which is something i absolutely love doing, sitting up too long, etc.) hiccups that sometimes make a really weird noise in my ear, and i feel a kind of pressure horrible chest pains (ew i'm having the painful hiccups with the ear noises right now =X) feeling like someone is taking my lungs and squeezing them but leaving a hair-sized hole to breathe, the shortness of breath is nearly killing me as i speak. ive always tried to do the finger-down-the-throat method, but once i got my tonsils removed, i stopped having a gag reflex. therefor, i can't gag myself, which means i cant get the burp to come up. so the only method i have is laying down flat on my bed or hanging myself off my bed which makes my head all tingley but whatever, and laying there long enough for it to digest through my system and come out as a fart. i have to do this method at least 4 or 5 times a day, which really sucks because i never feel like doing it. things like ramen noodles makes me gurgle HORRIBLEY, dont know why i had to throw that in but i did. basically, all the common effects that everyone else has. man this sucks, but its good to know that i'm not alone and we ARE getting answers. ^_^ kellycantburp on "Introduce yourselves" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=7#post-80 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:39:29 +0000 kellycantburp 80@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ my name is kelly, i'm almost 18 and have been gurgling since the day i was born! i've always been hoping for a cure and up until just this last week i had absolutely no hope until i talked to julie (gurglez) who has fixed my negativity towards the whole situation :) ive burped a few times in my life, maybe 10 times total, but every time its so tiny you can't even hear it and comes so fast i can't even begin to understand how it happened. the last time i burped was 6 months ago from coughing really hard, and i can't even tell you how AMAZING it felt. but yeah dont mean to sound redundant, but; gurgles, can't burp, hard to breath, chest pains, hard to throw up, laying down fixes it, etc etc etc. you get it. ariel on "Introduce yourselves" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=7#post-79 Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:14:39 +0000 ariel 79@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ Hi, I'm Mel from Singapore, 19 years old and have only burped once in my whole life. Instead most of the time I get these little gurgles that sound like a cow mooing in my throat. I used to go to a school where almost everybody in my class could belch impressively- they used to hold burping contests (yes even the girls.) I always felt kinda left out. But I'm glad I'm not the only non-burper now. currankentucky on "Diagnosis/cures" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=6&page=2#post-78 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:53:39 +0000 currankentucky 78@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ hi All, I was soo excited to read your symptoms. I too have never burped but have suffered from the gurgling since i was about 12 years old or so. Mine is a long series of events but ill try to keep them short. Im the eldest child and was REALLY cross as a child, everyone told my mum that being the first she was over reacting and i wasnt all that bad, my poor aunt supposedly took me for a week but handed me back after a few days as i wrecked her head, anyway, my mum took me to our gp who did a barium and discovered my stomach muscles were not closed... i could not keep anything down and was crying and in obvious pain... anyway he said it was something id grow out of and my mum just got on with it, supposedly i was a really early walker and mum reckons that once i was able to walk it was like relief for me and i got "better". I grew up knowing this but thought nothing of it and was fine until i was about 12 or 13, my throat would do the whole gurgling thing and i was really self concious of it. i used to avoid eating breakfast on school days but as i am a farmers daughter we have our main meal in the middle of the day so i would go home for dinner and then go back to school afterward and sure enough the gurgling would start and id get funny looks, i learnt to cope with them until one day my teacher actually stopped teaching the class demanding to know who was making the noise, it was shortly after this that i approached my mum and said i wanted to be checked out. we went to our gp (the original gp had passed on so this guy only had notes to go on). I was sent to hospital for an endoscopy and barium, i dont know if i remembered the barium from when i was younger or if i was just a really bad patient but i couldnt swallow the whole lot of it and the doctor was really cross which didnt help so the tests were inconclusive. As you can imagine my mum was peeved so i got on with it and didnt complain to her. I had the gurgling thing, cramps, bloating, the works. I started to figure out i could not drink sodas or spicy foods so i was really careful with what i ate and the symptoms eased (bar the gurgling, it doesnt matter what i eat that still happens). When i turned about 20 i started getting severe pains after eating and the gurlging became worse and the pain in my chest (heartburn) started, so i went to see a gastroentologist who booked me for an endoscopy, colonoscopy, bowel meal and biopsy, after all these tests he said something was wrong but i would need to do the barium test to decide. I was booked in for it a few days later but could not physically drink the stuff without gagging so i bailed. On the final consultaion with him he was obviously peeved and said there was nothing more he could do for me, that was about 7 years ago now. I can not do the whole finger in throat thing and the only relief i get when the pain gest bad is to lie down. On friday last my bofreinds sister was married, as you can imagine it was great fun, but i had to leave at about 2am as id stupidly had three sips of soda, i was in agony. I went outside for a bit and then went to the toilet where i had my head between my legs and was trying to concentrate on breathing deeply and slowly, that is the only trick that works for me besides the lying down. Once I get to the sever heartburn stage even the load music has an effect on me. I literally grabed my bag made my apologies and hightailed it home. The minute i got in the door i went and lay down and slept it off. When i have a bad attach like that it effects me the following day also, it generally hurts when i eat and as the day goes on the discomfort eases and im back on track again. I would love a solution to this problem and until today i never knew there were others who could not burp. That gives me hope! Sorry for the big long story but im just elated that its not all in my head. MikeMike on "Diagnosis/cures" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=6&page=2#post-77 Tue, 27 May 2008 07:15:01 +0000 MikeMike 77@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ Hey Steve, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on your post. I don't think stomach acidity has any effect on our problems. I know some people with GERD who have the dysfunction of the belch reflex, and I know of people who suffer from hypochlorhydria (low stomach acid) who also have the dysfunction. I recently had a stomach endoscopy, and they took biopsies to check if I had Helicobacter Pylori (and other bacterial, viral problems) which came out negative. While having an alkaline stomach is ideal as opposed to having an acidic stomach, I don't think it is a factor to our problem. I tend to agree with others on this forum when they mention a problem with the vagus nerve in our brains which causes our upper oesophageal sphincter to constrict rather than relax when gas accumulates up from the stomach. I have constant nausea and stomach pain due to this dysfunction. I have read and been told my numerous doctors that dyspeptic symptoms with persist until the air/gas is belched out from the stomach. So for those who are taking antacids just for the dysfunction and not for acid reflux/GERD, DON'T TAKE IT. You will probably end up messing your stomach up further like I did. ACV might help, especially for those who also suffer from gastroparesis, but I'm not certain of that. If only we can find some way of promoting the air/gas into the intestines... I know that they are coming up with medications that keep the lower oesophageal sphincter closed (as an alternative to lowering stomach acid for acid reflux/GERD), so perhaps that can help for those with chest tightness or sore throats. But can you imagine the bloating?? It's funny how, a lot of the people on this forum started getting discomfort from this dysfunction when they are in their mid-twenties. Perhaps the stomach becomes less efficient in passing air/gas out through to the duodenum and into the intestines when we hit this age? Steve on "Diagnosis/cures" http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/topic.php?id=6#post-76 Tue, 27 May 2008 03:38:18 +0000 Steve 76@http://www.mywhimislaw.com/cantburp/ Well, the idea mostly hit me when I decided that we don't simply have a "dysfunctional valve." There is certainly a cause behind it. My first thought was that I might have been too acidic, thus keeping my valve closed all the time. However, for much of my life I haven't gotten as many fresh vegetables as a should, and only more recently I've discovered one of their most important purposes: restoring alkaline reserves to neutralize stomach acid. Most foods that Americans eat leave an acidic residue. I've been drinking lots of V8 lately and it seems to help. I also learned about H. Pylori, a very common stomach infection, that causes very similar symptoms to gastritis. They actually disrupt stomach acid distribution and everything. I think in many of our cases, these problems, probly amongst other things, along with stress, may accumulate into a seemingly unrecognizable disorder. <a href="http://www.greathealth247.com/ph-acid-alkaline-food-chart.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.greathealth247.com/ph-acid-alkaline-food-chart.html</a> I've heard kombucha is really good for it, I'm gonna buy some from my local Wholefoods.